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Steiner Voices Podcast XYZ

Sep 10, 2026 9:02 AM

By Steiner Education Australia

Relationship before outcome: the work of a Relational Wellbeing Counsellor featuring Lisa Devine

Lisa Devine wears many hats: psychologist, priest, eurythmist and youth worker. She is neither a teacher nor a parent, yet she has been active in many Steiner schools as what she calls a “relational wellbeing counsellor”, working with relationships and community. In her wider community work, Lisa has spent 30 years working with young people and adults in trauma situations, some at the lowest points in their lives. Her journey has taken her through many painful moments where she has sat with those “on the threshold”. Yet she is still in awe of human beings: their resilience, their capacity to recover meaning in life, and to be there for each other. She is now working with Emergency Pedagogy, and she describes the profound impact it has had locally in the aftermath of both the Bondi terrorist attack and the Victorian bushfires. Her message is simple: relationship before outcome, and ultimately, everybody matters.

We also had the pleasure of recently hosting Lisa at Orana to facilitate a number of Eurythmy workshops.

Listen to the podcast here

Steiner Voices XYZ is a podcast series by Steiner Education Australia, showcasing some of the varied voices of Steiner school communities and their people around the country, of teachers, parents and students.

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